Sunday, July 22, 2007

A blogger's criticism of Robert Fisk

Robert Fisk is one of the greatest reporters of all time. He has written some of the most insightful, biting criticisms about U.S./Israeli/British foreign policy and provided readers, in vivid detail, a vision of of the plight of people living in war torn areas of the Middle East. I have nothing but sincere gratitude to him for putting his life on the line to give us these excellent stories. But, having said this, I think he is doing a disservice to his readers by claiming his contempt for the Internet and also by his refusal to look critically into the events of 9/11.

As far as Fisk's distain for the Internet, here is what he had to say about it in his latest article published in The Independent:
Robert Fisk: No wonder the bloggers are winning:

I despise the Internet. It's irresponsible and, often, a net of hate. And I don't have time for Blogopops. But here's a tale of two gutless newspapers which explains why more and more people are Googling rather than turning pages.

With such a broad, sweeping dismissal of the vast expanse of scientific research, political articles, commentaries, and important videos that one would never see on prime time news, calling the Internet "irresponsible" is the epitome of irresponsibility itself.

Most of us who use the Internet have found invaluable information about covert operations and alternative history that one could never find in our school's history books or newspapers. Maybe, if we tried hard enough, we might be able to find a book at the library that would reveal the layers of hidden history, but we would have to try really hard as publishers are reluctant to publish those books. True, on the Net we have to separate out the bad information from the good, but, at least it's there for us to sort out instead of the censors at the Ministry of Truth.

And, as far as his comment that the Internet is a "net of hate". Yes, we know that the Internet will connect people to hate-spewing Nazi propaganda web sites, as well as Zionist ones, but the internet doesn't even come close to being a organ for hate -- with its captive audience to millions -- as traditional media.

For example, Fisk should spend some time watching Glenn Beck as he gives his nightly "two minute hate" speeches on CNN. For those who don't know Beck, his job is to tell Americans how much Muslims hate us and are itching to drop a nuclear bomb on one of our cities. This vile speech often runs simultaneously with a visual of a nuclear bomb going off in the background.

Sometimes the scenarios on Beck's program don't always culminate in a mushroom cloud but are more mundane, though horrifying just the same. For instance, just the previous night Beck had on his program fiction writer and DHS terrorist-scenario creator, Brad Thor, telling American parents that their kids are in jeopardy from a Beslan-like school hostage crisis from depraved, fanatical Muslims. (So much for the notion of corporate responsibility -- this raving lunatic is given a soapbox to voice his hate courtesy of the Time Warner company who are owners of CNN).

And, if you don't get your hate from that bastion of liberalism, CNN, you could always go to Fox New's Bill O'Reilly who hates everything liberal, and MSNBC's Joe Scarborough who ran one of the most vicious campaigns to get Rosie O'Donnell fired from The View -- right at a time that she was educating people about 9/11.

Broadcast news and radio oozes hate and fear to millions daily, but, just because it is corporate-sponsored, does that make it any less reprehensible than what one can read on the Internet?

Granted, these organs are not Fisk's beloved print media but the print media was just as instrumental in selling the Iraq war to the American people as broadcast media. After all, who can forget Judith Miller's role in marketing the Iraq War to the American people under the aegis of the New York Times.

And, Miller's case was not an isolated one as biased, pro-government stories like the ones she filed were a constant in the months leading up to the war and after. Newspapers from around the country, almost unfailingly, goose-stepped along with the administration's versions of reality word-for-word, neglecting to do their perceived jobs as acting as watchdogs for the citizenry of this country by holding public officials accountable; and, that is the main point, print media is perceived to be unbiased, but it is not. It is highly controlled and manipulated by corporate and political interests.

All Americans should know about Operation Mockingbird. Here's a description of the program as reveal through details of the Church Committee of 1976:

"The CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers and periodicals, scores of press services and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and other foreign media outlets."

One can only imagine the control the CIA has over the media today when our administration has overtly given them carte blanche to disseminate propaganda favorable to the war effort. The House Committee on Oversight and Government Relations gives us some idea of how persuasive these programs are today (see:

Let's face it, people are leaving print and cable news for the Internet because they are tired of being lied to -- incessantly. They have been lied to on such issues as food safety and election fraud to the rationales for the Iraq War and 9/11.

And, speaking of 9/11, this brings me to my second criticism about Fisk. I spoke with him after a event last year in which he was discussing his latest book, "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East." I asked him if he would look critically and skeptically into the events of 9/11. I felt that this was important to bring up as Fisk's central thesis in his talks and books is that 9/11 was blowback in response to the aggression by imperialistic forces in the Middle East. (He mentioned in his speech twice that there were 19 hijackers that carried out 9/11, when way back in 2001 both the BBC and FBI had said that many hijackers were still alive. See I suggested to him that if he was going to make such assertions then it is incumbent for him to find out if this was indeed true as there is a body of evidence that indicates that 9/11 was an inside job.

Fisk told me that he does not have time to look into it as he is too busy reporting on events on the ground in the Middle East. I found this explanation odd to say the least. If the central theme of Fisk's beliefs might be based on a lie, and he is promoting that lie to millions, then isn't it his responsibility to look into the veracity of that claim? After all, a lot of people are dying based on this claim that we were attacked on 9/11 by 19 Muslim hijackers. If this is not true then the whole rationale for the war is a lie.

Fisk is quoted as saying that journalism must "challenge authority — all authority — especially so when governments and politicians take us to war" -- Miles, Oliver (2005-11-19). The big picture. Guardian Unlimited.

If Fisk is going to challenge authority, he must also challenge authorities' claims. After all, the administration uses 9/11 as the rationale for all their crimes -- preemptive war, torture, destroying the Bill of Rights. Since Fisk truly cares about the people of the Middle East, it's incumbent that he spend some time on the issue.

For further reading, see: "A Free Press or a Ministry of Truth?" by Paul Craig Roberts,, and Saddam's Infamous "Human Shredding Machines"


Anonymous said...

If Fisk doesn't believe that 9-11 was a false flag operation he's either entirely stupid, pathetically naive or stupid. Take your pick.

Curt Maynard

Anonymous said...

Don't worry, a couple of grammar issues doesn't confuse the point your making at all. [a frustrated English teacher maybe?:)]

Robert's point of view does seem a little incongruous with his understanding of other political and humanitarian issues of the world. I think though many intelligent, thoughtfull people still just can't see past the BIG lie. What it means to us all is of course very scary and I think this has a large part to play in the mass double think going on. You also have to consider we are all brainwashed from childhood and it takes longer for some people to 'deprogram' than others. The way things are going I think all will understand in the end, but will it be too late to do anything about it?

Anonymous said...

Fisk is a closet shill for the neo-cons as evidenced by this comment, in his article "Why my Landlord is Expecting the Worst"

Fisk's entire article at:

"Hizbollah - which provoked last
year's war by capturing two Israeli soldiers on the Israeli side of the border ..."

Sorry Fiskie, but the men who drew the Blue Line between Israel and Lebanon themselves dispute that Israeli troops were captured on the Israeli side of the border.

Not to mention, Fisk, that people who follow Middle Eastern media have seen that Israel has a history of false flag operations in said Middle East, as well as local operators/ Mossad agents doing Israel's bidding.

Fisk has admitted that he does not use the internet -- WHY??? Because he's "all-seeing"? Perhaps in his own mind...

But from the recent revelations that:

* Israel either knew or committed the attack on U.S. Marines in Beirut in 1983 -- information that came from a former Mossad agent.

* Israel supports Fatah economically and with weapons, in its death match/Palestinian civil war with Hamas.

* Allegations that Israel (this too from a Mossad source) was behind the hijacking that ended in the famous Israeli *rescue* of its own citizens at Entebbe in Uganda (which it did in order to destabilize the Palestinian's secular PLO and turn the world's opinion against Palestinians)

* and just looking at ALMOST ALL of our U.S. congress members worship at altar of the most powerful lobby in Washington, the American Israel Public Affairs Committe (AIPAC)

We must conclude that it is Israel that is the source of this instability -- which country would gain by an attack on Syria and the destruction of Lebanon (well, we know the answer to the latter by last year's Israeli attack on Lebanon)



Fisk is full of it, and I hope that the first Israeli bomb (cleverly disguised as a *Syrian* bomb made in the U.S. and actually dropped by Israel) lands on his fortified house, before more innocent *enemies* of the Zionist state are slaughtered, after which WW III will ensue.

Get Israel out of U.S. foreign policy NOW. Toll-free number for Congress:

800 828 0498

Anonymous said...

Guess that guy with the spelling peeve never learned to type on the Dvorak keyboard - the a & e are separated by o. :)

Anonymous said...

fisk is just another in the club of left gatekeepers like noam chomsky, amy goodman, david korn, and ward churchill.

while a lot of people jump to the conclusion that these people are somehow agents, i think is more reasonable to assume that they are just tired old leftists who cling to the dream that the people america have been shitting on all these years would rise up and attack america with a vengence.

the planners of 9/11 decided, brilliantly, to exploit people's racism (primed with years of anti-arab propaganda). if you believed that arabs did it on 9/11 (despite the clear historical evidence that that was entirely unlikely), then they exploited the racism inside you, too.

and that racism turned up in some interesting places within the left.

it is very difficult for some people to come to terms with the fact that the evil perpetrators look less like the arab faces you see on tv, and more like the face you see in the mirror.

redpill8 said...

"Hizbollah - which provoked last
year's war by capturing two Israeli soldiers on the Israeli side of the border"

Good point Anon, I forgot that Fisk had indeed blamed Hezbollah for the war in Lebanon last year when in fact it was Israeli soldiers that had illegally crossed into Lebanon. Another fact Fisk neglected to tell his audience.

Anonymous said...

Ya know... I've met some pretty ordinary, day to day, "normal" people... Bah! I'll get to the point: Even your regular dumb-ass off the street understands that much of 9/11 is a LIE. They may not be able to formulate arguments in opposition to the Government's, but they KNOW that they're being lied too. And they're just regular joe-blows!

So what of Mr. Fisk, who is a clearly an highly intelligent and articulate man of words? ...

There are only two possible options in his case:

1. He understands that, whilst it is clear that 9/11 was an inside job, if he chooses to expose it then he'll be set upon by the Zionist hordes who will quickly shut him down, and thus, he will no longer be able to "spread the word" on the oppression of the "third world" any longer. (i.e. "Who will speak for the downtrodden then?")

2. He is a shill (i.e. part of the controlled opposition), who understands fully that both the U.S and Israel pulled off 9/11, but he is so use to living it up in relative luxury and getting off on the prestige of being a "real journo" (unlike those desk-jockies), that he is simply not willing to relinquish that by exposing 9/11 (i.e. "F**k the third (and the 'first') world, I'm in it for the prestige!")

As for me... I use to think it was the first.... but now, I'm so sure anymore.

Like you implied, if he was genuinely sincere, then he would know that by pulling the plug on 9/11, he'll directly contribute to the true freedom of the third world.

But he chooses to zip his lip instead, only writing about the SYMPTOMS of the sickness, rather than the root cause...


Anonymous said...

Greg Palast Takes a Dive in The Midnight Hour.
Most of us who seek the truth that glimmers behind a web of lies know who Greg Palast is. He presents himself as an investigative reporter. He’s been a counter-culture hero of sorts who likes to picture himself as a Sam Spade in fedora sort of a guy who tenaciously digs to the real facts when the smoke machines and the light show hit the stage. I’ve enjoyed some things he’s written. I’m not a regular reader but I run across him. It appears that Greg Palast is not who he presents himself to be. It appears, from my view, that he is a disinfo specialist.

I cannot say that he has not reported the truth before. I have no means of checking this. What I can say is that he has put himself solidly on the side of untruth with his name-calling dismissal of Dr. Steven Jones -a world renowned physicist. Is Greg Palast a physicist? I don’t think so and if I’m wrong about that I’m waiting for correction. For some reason, Greg Palast thinks that Dr. Steven Jones is a fruitcake for questioning the official 9/11 story and for subjecting the official explanation of how and why the 3 WTC Towers fell to the disciplines of the science in which he is widely considered to be an expert.

Dr. Jones is not the only credentialed scientist to dispute the absurd conclusions of the official 9/11 story. There are hundreds of scientists and academics from all over the world who dispute it along with a majority of the world’s citizens. A child in primary school knows that 3 +2 does not add up to four. Greg Palast indicates that he does not know this in respect of the bad math in the official 9/11 story, yet… we are led to believe that Greg Palast is a truth seeker and an intelligent man. Pay close attention to the video interview with Greg that is coming up here shortly. What is the explanation for Greg’s position in defiance of hard, empirical science, mathematical law and common sense? It can’t be that he doesn’t know. That’s as absurd as his rejection of what is obvious to an ordinary layman. So why… why does he defend the official story?

What about Noam Chomsky? he won’t touch the 9/11 cover-up and his commentary is the worst kind of disingenuous patronizing. What is it about these famous and seemingly passionate defenders of the greater good with feet of clay? Is a person’s honor of less value than their VIP entrĂ© and a paycheck? I can’t fathom it. Thank god there are enough of us around that if they tried to bury us in the Chateau D’If they wouldn’t have the room. They wouldn’t have the room in Madison Square Garden; maybe not even in all of the fallen towers on a busy day… still, there are all too few.

Most of us don’t make the big bucks getting cozy with the suits. Most of us don’t put on a manufactured persona of cool and then disappoint the people who rely on us. Most of us don’t posture as something we are not just so we can hang with the money men and get published and go to awards dinners and whatever it is that they do in the private railcars of the midnight hour when the brandy and cigars come out to play. Most of us are all too few.

At one site, there are dozens of professional pilots with thousands and thousands of hours in the air who have ferried tens of thousands of passengers and flown in combat and even flown the very planes that hit the towers and who all say it could not have been accomplished by the alleged perpetrators. There is overwhelming agreement that we are the beneficiaries of obvious and outrageous lies.

Let’s go to the video …what am I missing? Can Greg Palast be telling the truth about everything else and 9/11 too and I am just too stupid to see the light? Can Greg Palast be as stupid as his position makes him out to be? See, it doesn’t make sense. Something is wrong with this picture. What might that be?

This is what you find when you go looking into circumstances surrounding 9/11. You come up on Israeli involvement. You absolutely come up on Israeli foreknowledge. I think we can be pretty conclusive about that. It’s a funny way for one of your so-called ‘best friends’ to behave. Could this be what Greg Palast and Noam Chomsky do not want to have to deal with? No less redoubtable a source than FoxNews put out a four part video on Israel spying (very quickly removed from their web site) on the U.S. we’ve heard about ‘The Five Dancing Israelis.” and there is a whole lot more that you can keep finding out until you realize that somehow, in some way, Israel is involved in 9/11.

Did I want to find this out? I’m a writer and a recording artist. I have a lifetime of effort in certain areas of endeavor. Is it not career death for me to refuse to knuckle under to a lie? Is it not a difficult thing for me to ask legitimate questions? It certainly is. However, some of us do not find the enslavement of our souls and sale of our integrity for a “mess of potage” to be a fair exchange. It comes down to what you value. It comes down to where your heart is. To quote Richard Lovelace, "I could not love thee (Deare) so much, love'd I not honor more."

The truth is not a thing of convenience, something that can be altered on a whim to suit us all. Heck, if that were the case, Mossad would have long ago altered the truth and there would be no evidence. But there is evidence, all kinds of evidence; nothing absolutely, smoking gun specific but the kind of evidence that a husband might have when he sees some guy hotfooting it away from his house through a window when he arrives home unexpectedly a night early. He doesn’t know what went on but his wife is in the house, she’s dressed for bed and she doesn’t want to talk about it and well… you get the picture. “I don’t know honey, maybe it was a peeping Tom.” Maybe it was and maybe it wasn’t. And then you see things. You see things you don’t want to see. The windows not closed, the bed is in disaray and you really don’t want to believe “your lying eyes”. But you have got to wonder.

Maybe Greg Palast knows “which side his bread is buttered on.”

The other day, this,2933,291284,00.html (so-called) news story appeared in FoxNews and then, the next day on Who knows where else it has appeared? The headline says, “Hezbollah: We Are Ready to Attack Israel Again”. The actual quote- QUOTED IN THE ARTICLE- turns out to be "We possess and we will continue to possess rockets that can hit any area in occupied Palestine if Israel attacks Lebanon," That’s a lot different from the headline. That’s a serious disconnect. Then in the article, once again, as it has been repeated thousands of times, it is said- again, by faceless correspondents that the Israeli soldiers were ‘kidnapped’ on Israeli soil when, in fact, as eyewitnesses to the event; police, journalists and citizens have stated, they were ‘captured’ several miles inside the Lebanese border please note what has happened to most of the links in this article. Many of the articles which announced it at the time have been since expunged from The Web. Is this the media Greg Palast has to deal with? Is it the media HE DOES ‘DEAL’ with?

This is my problem. When I set about seeking the truth in a matter, I weigh the evidence. When the evidence turns out to be inconsistent with ‘official’ conclusions that are declared to be the truth then I begin to wonder ‘why’ that is. When the evidence shows signs of warping and having been spun, folded and mutilated and when powerful interests begin to apply pressure for compliance with official explanations then I wonder more. I can’t help wondering why someone insists that 2 + 3 equals 4. I can’t just say, “Okay, you’re probably right.” just to avoid conflict or to protect my income and my personal safety. I’m not made that way and that’s a problem you may be sure.

Watch the videos people. Read the links and extrapolate out a bit and ask yourself… “Does this make me wonder?” Look at the trend of the last six years. Look at how one thing has led to another, based on information PROVEN false. Study what we have learned about 9/11 and compare it to the official fairytale and then you tell me… you tell me if you’re comfortable with what your reason and your intuition suggest as opposed to what you’ve been told.

Step by step, incrementally we go into a deeper darkness. We don’t question. We follow the Judas Goat through the ramps and out to the killing floor. The soothing voice from the speakers tells us that everything is going to be alright. We want to believe that voice. Deep inside we are afraid. We are afraid the voice is lying because what we are hearing does not match up with what we are seeing and smelling. What will we do?

It’s your world people. It’s your life. You must decide whether it is preferable to live on your knees. Do you think it ends there? Do you think that maybe you will lose just a little liberty, a little freedom and then it will even out? Is that what you think?

You must demand that those who represent you are loyal first to the country in which you live. You have no idea how strong you are when you are united. Take the blinders away from your eyes and look! There is something in us that is greater than all of that which seeks to oppress us and drink our blood. It is up to you. It is up to us. Do you have the honor and integrity to stand up for yourselves and your family and your community or are you going to take that dive in the midnight hour? That is the question you are going to have to ask yourself. Sooner or later… sooner or later it is going to show up at your door.
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Anonymous said...

Isn't funny that Fisk, Palast, Michael Parenti, Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, along with the 'leftwing' or 'progressive' press in its entirety (e.g., Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive magazine) either avoid 9-11 like the plague or actually join the Zio-Busheviks by denouncing those who look into 9-11 as 'conspiracy theorists'?

My conclusion is that every major leftwing writer, critic, editor and writer is a controlled hack. Their job is to deflect leftwing criticism from where it would matter and make a big difference and divert it into the criticism of things that no one can do anything about.

I agree with the previous poster - it's best simply not to read them, because even when they write good stuff, they are just building up their own credibility so they can use it to knock down the so-called 'conspiracy theorists.'

Anonymous said...

It is quite amazing that the 'left gatekeepers', whatever their motivations, can maintain the 'loony conspiracy theorist' line given the credentials of many of the people questioning the official 9/11 story. Some 'left gatekeepers' may indeed be shills for covert operations groups, but how would one know? It is worth reading Barry Zwicker on this topic in his excellent book, Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11. He has certainly upset a number of 'progressives' with his attack on Chomsky. Not this one.

I hope that all here are aware of the following link:
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report: "... Information on ... people from government and academia who question the U.S. government and mainstream media account of the atrocity on September 11. ..."

Anonymous said...

"fisk is just another in the club of left gatekeepers like noam chomsky, amy goodman, david korn, and ward churchill."

I agree totally.

Fisk shills for the Holo-hoax too--and if anyone reading this thinks that's not important, ask yourself why the PTB are locking up Holo-"deniers" right and left, and trying to pass ever more draconian laws to keep the truth from getting out.

The Holo-hoax is not only a huge crime in itself--it is the gatekeeper concealing the MONSTROUS crimes of WWI and II (both part of the same long war, really)--committed by the same psychos who bring today's wars (which are also part of the same long war, come to think of it).

And perhaps even more important, if possible, the Holohoax is the locked door that keeps the people of the western world—who are increasingly desperate to do away with the foul system of usury that keeps us in thrall--from seeing the fact that Third Reich Germany DID PRECISELY THAT.

Hitler eliminated the middlemen in the City of London from his foreign trade, kicked the international banksters out of Germany, and freed his country from the strangling tentacles of the Octopus. Germans, including the working classes, enjoyed the highest standard of living in the world, thanks to being able to reap the deserved rewards of their own labor.

Unlike the rest of the western world, then and now--who have the fruits of their honest labor confiscated to pay a global protection racket. In return, we get what? They won't raze our countries to the ground and commit genocide against our people as they did to Germany and are doing now to Iraq and the Palestinians.

We know Saddam wanted to drop the dollar, right? As Ahmadinejad is now doing.

In case any reading this have been swayed by the stories going the rounds that say Hitler was a minion of the Banksters--part of the conspiracy, wittingly or unwittingly--I would like you to consider very carefully why they have vilified him beyond anyone in the world ever, and continue to do so even now--unless he was their bitterest enemy. It is “limited hangout.” By selling the lie that Hitler was one of them and no better than they, the psychopathocracy can still keep us from looking carefully at what really happened in Germany--which was so threatening to them that it forced them to lay a continent low and extinguish insofar as possible all traces of the truth, in order for their corrupt reign to survive.

If you want to find out the truth, you can--there's plenty on the web, and from small, non-controlled publishers that you can find through the Internet.

The wars of the last century and their massive cover-up are the pillars that hold our present corrupt and bloodthirsty order in place--and if you want to topple that order you'll have to dig much deeper than recent shenanigans such as 911 and the Iraq war.

It takes courage. If you are reading this, you've probably already gotten used to being called an “anti-Semite” for speaking out about massive and intolerable crimes that are being committed even as I write this. Now are you ready to be called a neo-Nazi because you refuse to take the word of those same criminals—notorious liars--about the big H?

If you are not ready for that terrible fate, think about whether it's worse for you to be called names or for little children, their mothers, fathers, grandparents, animals homes, trees, gardens--their whole world to be blown to bloody hell anytime those same name-callers want to grab some more wealth or power.

All it takes is for enough people to find out the truth for themselves, and the arch-criminals will no longer have the power to wreck the lives of truth-telling individuals in order to silence them. Or to carry out the rest of their anti-human agenda.

You don't even have to tell anyone what you find out (though you will want to). The important thing is to find out the truth for yourselves, so you will be ready to stand up for it when the right moment comes.

There is NO EXCUSE for not getting to the bottom of this evil, however distressing it may be for you temporarily. You cannot sit comfortably on the shelf as truth-tellers of 21st century crimes, ignoring the deepest roots of the evil, and hope it will be enough. It won't.

Thanks to the Internet we have the power to find out facts we could never have had access to before; the more we make use of that power, the more leverage we will have to mobilize masses and sweep the psychopathic global parasites out of power.


Thanks for reading this.

Anonymous said...

I guess everyone stopped reading at "I despise the internet".

The last line of the article read: "No wonder the bloggers are winning"

And there's a lot of good stuff between those two sentences.

Anonymous said...

Fisk says he has seen a lake at Auschwitz with enough bones to fill a city, that Harari was a Syrian assassination, that Hezzbolah is real, etc etc.

He is the biggest phony out there.

Anonymous said...

I suspect that ZOG threatened him. He is never to probe too deep.

Anonymous said...

Superb piece and superbly written.

Tom said...

9/11 Hijackers are NOT still alive

False theories like "9/11 was a controlled demolition" undermine serious efforts to get foreign policies addressed, for example, U.S. support for Israel.

We were attacked and are still at risk for being attacked again because of specific foreign policies.

See: The Public Campaign to Stop
the Lies and the Denial of
the Main Motive for the 9/11 Attacks: U.S. Support for Israel

Tom said...


Unfortunately, some people on the Internet don't use internal logic and instead insist that the initial report, which was corrected within hours, must have been correct. The website you cite does a poor job with the facts. Please see this link: Where exactly were those Israeli soldiers when Hezbollah captured them?

The website you use pushed the "inside job" theory in spite of the evidence that debunks it: The very thing that Griffin points to as a feature of a fire caused collapse we can see in photos of the World Trade Center.

Tom said...

Mike Zimmer,

Please include my blog in your list of blogs to visit. I am not surprised you list "" It is this website that has probably spread the "inside job" BS more than any other. He refuses to link to the facts that debunk that convoluted theory like the fact that WTC Pre-Collapse Bowing Debunks the 9/11 "Controlled Demolition" Theory. See this link: 9/11 Truth Movement Pushes Non-Scientific Evidence

Anonymous said...

the last comment to your good article on fisk is bullshit as it is physically impossible that steel framed skyscrapers explode from airplane inpact.

while the facts laid down at websites like
have far more plausibility as everybody can learn from simple watching of collapse videos and images of the pyroclastic flow on top of the towers, the ashes in the street and the burnt cars even in some distance to ground zero (sic!)

Anonymous said...

The real truth about everything:

Bush, Blair, Putin, Merkel, Sarkosy, Brown and many other leaders are all Jews.

See for yourself (PHOTOS): or, or,

3 copies due to the usual censorship.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Fisk is simply a lazy neurotic:
If he read on the internet he would have to research his articles a lot better - so he confines himself to romantic-humantistic musings.

One might wonder for what reason he usually writes about women, especially very young ones, in a quite erotically tinged way .....
By the way, is he finally married ?

Of course he is in favour of Israel, otherwise he would not have lasted as long as he did in Beirut.

He makes money off his reputation - not his ability to critically analyse politics.

Anonymous said...

Fisk hates that he can no longer contain the content on the internet. His Mainstream media world cannot censor anymore. They cannot spin stories, detain demonstrators, ban books like America Deceived, and shut down dissent. The game is over, mainstream media is DEAD.
Last link (before Stark County District Library bends to pressure and bans the book):
America Deceived (book)

Anonymous said...

1. After searching at length, I finally found a product at the store here in USA that does not have a kosher tax mark: Oscar Meyer baloney. 2. Nearly all of your mortgage payment is handed over to a Federal Reserve Governor who did absolutely nothing to receive any of it. Meantime you wonder why your nation is $9 trillion in debt or some such thing. Yes, you and your nation are definitely being robbed of the fruit of your endeavors. 3. You wonder why absolutely worthless, irresponsible, talentless, extremely ugly people have $100k jobs while you scrape by year after year in spite of being highly educated, hard-working and extremely competent. I stopped wondering a while back, have stoppppppppped the pointless discussion of whether or not this or that is true, and have begun solving the problem myself merely by sending a few emails, all of which go to the big byte crunchers along with all of your own online musings, zio or not--and whether you like it or not. The internet was created in order to destroy the octopus. By 2012 it will have succeeded in that. Supercomputers the world over are sifting your truth from their lies, and the closest thing possible to Armageddon is coming, after which the octopus will be no more. The zionist organized crime ring is all but finished: end of discussion.

redpill8 said...

By the way, since I don't believe in censorship, I will leave up Kosherbacon's comment, though I explicitly disagree with his conclusions that all wars and societal ills can be ascribed to the Jews. This is the kind of hate speech that Fisk and others are trashing the internet over, however, I will leave it up as an example of their valid point.

Such sweeping condemnation of an entire group of people needs to be condemned vigorously. This is the type of rhetoric that Hitler and his cohorts used to rile up the mob to attack an innocent population.

Most Jews were not responsible for the bleak economic situation that the Germans were in in the 20s and '30s, nor were they the cause of both World Wars. This was the fault of high-finance power players of many different ethnicities profiting of death and destruction.

Let's not scapegoat more innocents based on hateful rhetoric like this.